| Aloha | Thursday, August 16, 2001 - 09:41 pm 
Get real people!!One minute krista is fooling around with Justin in the kitchen with a knife and the next minute he is called into the "room"!then he is gone.of course she knows that what they were doing upset BB!!It's not like there was a big time gap in this event!!!!!DAH!She would dearly love to disassociate herself with the whole situation.Bad PR don't ya know.I bet her butt bit off a big piece of that cushion she was sitting on,there with Julie.Her facial expression when Julie started to ask her about Justins removal from BB,
looked like pure panic!I thought she was going to toss her cookies!LOL.She did not want that subject brought up.Heck I started squirming in my chair when Julie asked her that question.LOL..She knew, you can bet your sweet patootie on that! |
| Carddlr | Thursday, August 16, 2001 - 10:09 pm
Thank you, Krystal for bringing up how Krista went around, especially to Chilltown, trying to make them think that it was "others" who got Justin kicked out. I was relieved that Julie brought her up on at least one of her many lies and manipulations. I wasn't at all surprised that Krista would claim not to remember that nor was I surprised by the way she tried to portray Nicole as evil. Krista is the Queen of denial and feels just as entitled as Shannon and Mike did. The only thing that amazes me is how many people on this board keep making excuses for her. |
| Mark13 | Thursday, August 16, 2001 - 10:11 pm
I really think that Krista was too drunk to remember. Just because we saw the incident and she looked like she wasn't all that drunk does not mean that she remembers it. When people suffer black-outs while drinking it doesn't affect how they act. They act the same as they normally would with that much alcohol in their system, they just don't remember it.
And telling Mike not to send a banner could just mean that she has a vague idea that her and Justin did something that night that the other HG shouldn't know about. That could also explain her near panic when Julie asked her about it. She just didn't want whatever it was revealed on live TV!
The point being is that we don't know what she knows. It'll be interesting to see if its discussed on the Early Show. |
| Bbvoyeur | Thursday, August 16, 2001 - 10:12 pm
I just finished watching the TV show. When Julie popped the question I was carefully watching Krista's eyes.
When Krista heard the question she looked up and to her right indicating that she was visually remembering the event. She then looked to her upper left. This indicated that she was falsely creating her answer. She then looked straight ahead and gave her falsely constructed anaswer, "no."
If she had been telling the truth she would have looked would have looked up and to her right to visually remember the event (as she did). Then she would have looked straight ahead and answered the way she just viusally remembered the event. That glance to the upper left was a dead give away of the lie.
(Note: Krista is left handed) |
| Mandm | Thursday, August 16, 2001 - 11:04 pm
My first thought was not of Krysta, but rather how smart CBS was not to openly question her about it. If she had watched the clip and said on national TV - "we were just playing" then Justin could have a real case against CBS. So asking her and then showing it to her later was very smart.
Thanks for all the eye talk - I had no idea that the direction a person looks is so telling. I guess will must shift his eyes a lot too. Funny I never noticed it. Guess that is why he is the worl's greatest liar -LOL |
| Birdie | Thursday, August 16, 2001 - 11:04 pm
ah hah-you guys have been watching CSI! lol |
| Bbvoyeur | Thursday, August 16, 2001 - 11:13 pm
I do not watch CSI. I have studied Neuro LInguistic Programming (NLP). It is a fascinating subject. If you are interested, do a net search. There is a lot of information on the net about NLP. |
| Bbintervention | Thursday, August 16, 2001 - 11:19 pm
I've always thought that she remembered the incident but either had been instructed by BB not to tell or that Krista wanted to distance herself from it by not talking about it.
Tonight though, I thought I saw some genuine fear, concern, and confusion when asked about Justin's eviction. I'm shocked by this, but she either just doesn't remember it due to alcohol or somehow she doesn't think it warranted eviction. I just find either of these scenarios hard to believe. I doubt she is that good of an actress. |
| Birdie | Thursday, August 16, 2001 - 11:23 pm
*birdie retreats to her nest shaking head* tweet tweet-a little humor never hurt (?) |
| Thumper | Thursday, August 16, 2001 - 11:30 pm
Thanks Bbvoyeur for the clarification. I knew I didn't have it quite right.
Reading body language and NLP is fascinating and a skill any future BB HGs should learn. They would have such an advantage over the others!! |
| Hardywins | Thursday, August 16, 2001 - 11:49 pm
Krista did have the deer in the headlights look of someone caught in a lie when asked about Justin. The fact is that whether or not Krista was drunk or psychologicly delusional; she chose not to remember the incident. Haven't you all noticed that the second after one of Krista's lies becomes outdated, useless, or found out; she immediately forgets that she ever said/did such lie or action. She is Psycho self-deluding. That is how she is able to tell herself over and over that she is a nice person and that she never did anything to hurt anyone nor ever lied to anyone nor ever conspired against anyone. It is her only way to survive when in fact she is such a backstabbing manipulative liar both in the house and in her real life. |
| Snee | Thursday, August 16, 2001 - 11:51 pm
i noticed the eye shift thing too. i didn't recall which was which about creating and remembering, but the shift was obvious. |
| Elissa55 | Thursday, August 16, 2001 - 11:52 pm
I believed that Krista had no clue whatsoever about why Justin got kicked out and no recollection of that part of the night. She seems to consume a lot of alcohol and I think the more and longer a person drinks the more often they have blackouts and don't remember a thing even though they look pretty normal. Apparently Boogie wasn 't too put off by it since he did show up with the flowers. As an aside, I would like to say that I am astounded by what these people are going through in this house. It's quite a study in human psychology and there are a lot of things happening that I never expected. Even though they're physically safe and have fairly nice surroundings one by one they're all going into meltdown. Interesting. |
| Notakristafan | Friday, August 17, 2001 - 01:09 am
I thought at first she might have been to drunk, but I also watched her eyes; thanks to CSI, I could tell she was lying. I think she had the deer in the headlights look because she was informed before hand that they would find out why he was ejected out of the house. She now knows that the other HG know what they were doing and that she did know something about it. |
| Evita27 | Friday, August 17, 2001 - 01:31 am
Okay....first of all....about the idea of Krista making Mike promise not to send any banners regarding her and Justin. A LOT happened with her and Justin that night. It's possible she was talking about an earlier event in the evening such as the bathroom session with Shannon or whatever else might have happened when the feeds shut off. There may have been a lot that happened that night that she was embarrassed by. Personally, I wouldn't want a new BF to see intimate relations between myself and other people. Of course, that's if she even told Mike not to send a banner about it.
Secondly, I've heard UNVERIFIED rumors regarding Krista having been through some type of abuse when she was younger. If the UNVERIFIED RUMORS are true, her forgetfulness could be a defense mechanism. It's quite common for victims
of abuse to selectively "forget" incidents.
I personally would love to see each and every HGs reaction to that tape. I have to wonder what Kent had to say about it after Krista verbally attacked him for "getting Justin thrown out." I'm sure it would change Hardy's point of view as well. |
| Fruitbat | Friday, August 17, 2001 - 03:46 am
Just for the record, that trick about watching the eye direction is not written in stone. It is a theory and does not play out across the board if at all. |
| Adelaide | Friday, August 17, 2001 - 03:55 am
God she's such a liar. I know nothing about watching "eyes", but I know a liar when I see one. she knows, oh yes, she knows. |
| Bbvoyeur | Friday, August 17, 2001 - 04:01 am
Fruitbat, for the record, you are incorrect. Do a net search on NLP. There is a ton statistical verification for this theory.
I am not trying to flame you. I just want to set the record straight. |
| Hardy | Friday, August 17, 2001 - 06:00 am
i find it ironic that krista claims she doesn't lie...just now on the morning show she said she doesn't remember the knife incident...she claims her eyes were closed....yeah right!
Remus...cbs had planned on showing her the incident but ran out of time cos her exit was so long from the house
Amai...you are right on with your thoughts
Guesthouse...trust me i love blondes!!! |
| Bbintervention | Friday, August 17, 2001 - 07:29 am
Well the mystery is over for me and I kind of feel like an idiot. Per Krista on the Early Show, she claims *now* that "her eyes were closed" so I guess she didn't realize a knife was at her throat. Then she says something about it just being a joke. I do like giving someone the benefit of the doubt, but it appears I've been duped. She remembers the incident just fine.
That's some impressive acting she did with Julie last night then. I still can't believe it.... |
| Northernlad | Friday, August 17, 2001 - 07:47 am
I don't think she did such a good job acting last night at all. I remember it clearly. As soon as Julie asked her about Justin, her eyes immediately darted away from Julies, and I believe she looked to her left. Therefore I think there is some truth to what people are saying about looking for patterns in eye movements when people are lying. Krista had to remember the incident because immediately following the knife incident they called Justin to the diary room and he turned and said something like, "You wanna bet this is about the knife to your throat". The whole "I had my eyes closed" story is the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard. She's a liar who was lying and then turning around and preaching about how she wasn't a liar....like the rest of them. Like the old saying goes, "Thank God and Greyhound she's gone!" |
| Carlierae | Friday, August 17, 2001 - 07:51 am
i believe she's lyin her bottom off. but i do not beleive the eye theory. in some cases its way off base..especially in mine. I cannot help but look anywhere but a persons eyes. and i fidgit a lot...all due to add. I wouldn't go as far as saying anyone that looks to the left when confronted a question/accusation isn't allways lying. you have to look deeper. and what i saw when i was watching last night was someone who doesn't really know how to lie very well. |
| Starshine | Friday, August 17, 2001 - 08:14 am
This daggone eye theory cost me part of that interview! ACK! I was trying to document her eye movements and hit record instead of freeze frame. Anyways, Krista looked to the far left during most of the interview. I felt it was more her being nervous than her lying. She even looked to the left when she said Laken was the most wonderful child in entire world and I don't think she'd be lying about that.
From watching it numerous times, I truly believe that it wasn't a big deal to her, she did not see it as a violent threat, she saw it as a joke - just as many people theorized after the incident happened. In the context of her past history, to her, it wasn't a big deal. I think she could be more uncomfortable with the fact that she did not view it as a threat and that she was, in some part, responsible for Justin's eviction. |
| Elissa55 | Friday, August 17, 2001 - 10:21 pm
It's interesting reading everyones differing opinions of the same event. I watched Krista's Early Show interview and watched the tape of her exit interview with Julie again to look for the eye movements. My theory is that IF she lied it was to cover up the fact that she was blacked out that night. I have a feeling it happens a lot and she tries to pretend that it doesn't. She's not very good at it, though. I can't imagine many people not feeling treatened by a knife to the throat and the question "Would you be mad at me if I killed you?" just because they closed their eyes or a few seconds. That was ridiculous. On top of that she said she knows Justin very well. How long was he in the house? |
| Franny | Saturday, August 18, 2001 - 07:36 am
How can she claim she didn't remember? How can some of you believe she had some drunken blackout? She never had trouble remembering specific conversations, or promises that were made to each other when she was drunk. Does she have selective memory? Yes she does....It was early in the game and I don't think she realized at the time that anyone would see it. When she started getting banners is when she realized it was seen. Maybe she could get away with "It was just to painful to remember". |
| Kizz | Saturday, August 18, 2001 - 08:24 am
I was tending to agree with evita in that based on what we've come to find out about her childhood, it seems plausable that she would have developed a strong defense mechanism to deal with the frightening and upsetting things that happened to her...but then she did manage to trot out that sad Christmas story in a blatant ploy to gain sympathy and stay in the game (which was pretty smart even if it didn't work...that ploy works best on people WHO HAVE HEARTS lol)...I will be watching for that eye thing from now on tho  |
| Maggieh | Saturday, August 18, 2001 - 08:44 am
Krista a good actor? Please! She couldn't hide her distaste for Nicole could she? A good actor could.
Don't give up your day job Krista! |
| Hypermom | Saturday, August 18, 2001 - 09:39 am
She's such an unbelievable liar and always looking out for number one. |
| Debd | Saturday, August 18, 2001 - 11:01 pm
I haven't seen one possibility discussed regarding the whole knife incident. My take on this from day one has been that Krista knew EXACTLY what was going on, and was probably less drunk than she appeared. I believe that she was aware that Justin had been warned by BB, and knew that one more threat would be enough to get him booted. All she needed to do was whisper in his ear "I like it rough" or just convey that message by her actions, and it was inevitable that Justin would play the game with her.
Why would she intentionally get Justin kicked out? The balance of power. Justin was aligned with chilltown, and that alliance was too strong. Getting rid of Justin changed the whole power structure of the game. It worked in her favor, too - at least for awhile. |
| Dream23weaver | Sunday, August 19, 2001 - 11:45 am
<<(Note: Krista is left handed) >>
I think Nicole and Kent are also left-handed. Does anyone know for sure? What an interesting conversation this is about NLP. I am gonna go look it up and learn more. BTW, does anyone know if it is opposite for left-handed people? Would they do it the other way around? |
| Rachel | Sunday, August 19, 2001 - 12:55 pm
Everyone has such well thought out ideas on this subject. I tend to think it was a blackout and she was embarassed to admit that she didn't remember this event. What motive did she have for not telling the others what happened right from the start? And then continuing not to acknowledge it when the banners started coming....I cannot think of a good reason. |
| Dream23weaver | Sunday, August 19, 2001 - 01:53 pm
I can think of a couple good reasons she would not want to acknowledge what happened. First of all, the CT would be upset with her for inciting Justin enough that he is kicked out (I am not taking away any blame from Justin in that statement btw). Second of all, don't you remember all her banter about it being Kent's fault Justin was ejected from the game? She got a lot of mileage out of that one. Also why would she say she had her eyes closed? It may be difficult for "normal" people to believe she would #1--encourage someone to put a knife to her throat while laughing and #2--blame Kent for his eviction when she knows she was the one responsible -- but I think Krista does a lot of very nasty things which *normal* people haven't even contemplated. Yeah right, she would rather us think she was looped rather than she is just naturally always nuts. |
| Floresmama | Sunday, August 19, 2001 - 01:57 pm
Krista was right handed from everything I saw. I know Kent and Nicole are left handed and I think Hardy is too.
I don't believe which hand you are reverse which side of your brain does what though. |
| Sfnative | Sunday, August 19, 2001 - 02:02 pm
Rachel, I agree with you. I think that she blacked out and doesn't remember it. If she has ever seen one of those "take this test" things for whether or not you are an alcoholic, one of the questions is always have you ever suffered a blackout while drinking. I think her avoidance of this goes beyond embarassment...she may be in denial. |
